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Posted by: bobby100 Jun 22 2004, 04:08 AM |
Beta testers needed. PM for the link. Beta tester agreement: you can be beta tester if you promise to report bugs and other results in period of one week. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 23 2004, 12:06 PM |
As I see, with the exception of midas, nobody is interested in beta testing. Yes, I know that the topic is posted just a couple of days ago, but I have now free time to develop this, after tomorrow I must concentrate on my exams. According to the facts posted above, I make this beta version available for the public, and I hope that maybe this will work better then PM-ing for the link. http://members.chello.at/bobby100/beta/ http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0227529/beta/ - mirror, use it in case that first link doesn't work Best regards Boban Spasic aka bobby100 |
Posted by: Stugpanzer Jun 23 2004, 10:25 PM |
I'll test this. I presume that this is a front-end GUI for PE (like Geoshell, etc.) |
Posted by: Rootman Jun 23 2004, 11:18 PM | ||
@bobby100 Not to sound like a smart a$$ but if you perhaps explained what The_GUI IS you would have more takers and it would avoid questions like the one quoted above. I DL'd it and tried it. It seems to work fine. I used the advanced tools to UPPERCASE a group of files to try and use the sort list feature of mkiso. The tool worked fine, the sort didn't net me any time savings as far as boot time. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 24 2004, 01:06 AM | ||
@Rootman Sorry, my mistake...
Sorry, didn't understand that, my lack of English knowledge... @All Short description of The_GUI: This is a front-end for command-line tools like DFL, mkisofs, cdrecord... with addition of some stuff like Layout Sorting, Changing file/folder case (uppercase/lowercase) and attributes (needed in many cases). To have better picture, take a look at following threads: - http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5269 - http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6869 - http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4382 - http://www.911cd.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6753 I apollogize once more. Perhaps because I'm dealing with this program every day, I'v forgot that there is a lot of people that are not introduced with it. Best regards Boban Spasic aka bobby100 |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 24 2004, 03:31 AM | ||||||||||||
I apologize to all, please wait for next beta. AEC found a couple of bugs, two of them are serious. Part of my transcription with AEC:
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Posted by: aec Jun 24 2004, 09:54 AM | ||
@bobby100
Both versions work with slashes. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 24 2004, 12:26 PM |
Mingw32 version updated to beta2. Same links as in first post. Question @all: It isn't easy to work on couple of version (forks) because the source code of smallest version (mingw32) is more than 100kb, not to mention combo version. From this reason I'll be glad to know which one is your favorite in order to concentrate on developing just one of them: - Cygwin version: huge, DFL as separate module, distribution archive is 1mb - Mingw32 version: small, DFL is integrated in mkisofs and works faster, distro is about 650kb - combo version: contains mingw32 version with addition of separate DFL module from Cygwin version and modified MakeISO module to work with both Cygwin and Mingw32 versions of mkisofs.exe. Distro is about 1.2mb. My favorite is Mingw32 version. Maybe I should make separate thread with pool for this question? |
Posted by: xzanman02 Jun 25 2004, 07:45 AM |
Bobby100 Very nice. I am using the ming32 version beta2. It created an iso from files just fine. However, I am getting an error when trying to create an iso from a cd. I give the file a name and hit save. The error shows up on the captured console. readcd: Target 'Documents\isos\test.ISO' is not a Number. Under this heading there was a list of all the options. I tried a couple of the options added with the name to save as but still keeps quiting over the 'is not a number.' running windows 98se. What number does it want? I checked the help file and it stated that this section was pretty self explanatory. I am a bit lost as to what it wants me to put in. Suggestions and comments would be greatly appreciated. Any version is fine with me. But, if the ming version is easier to work with and faster, it makes sense to stick with that one. After you get it to where you want it, you could always add the other versions later. This is a very handy tool. Thanks for creating it. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 25 2004, 09:37 AM |
@xzanman02 I'm sorry to say, but this program wasn't intended for win9x, but maybe we can do something... Open MS-DOS prompt and navigate to folder where The_GUI is located. Type 'cdrecord -scanbus' (without quotas) and see if your result looks like this: E:\projekti\The_GUI mingw32>cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a32-bootcd.ru (i686-pc-mingw32) Copyright © 1995-2004 Jśrg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to <cdrtools@bootcd.ru>. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'MAXTOR 6' 'L040J2 ' 'A93.' Disk 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) HOST ADAPTOR scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'TEAC ' 'CD-W54E ' '1.1Y' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'SONY ' 'DVD-ROM DDU1611 ' 'GYS1' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) HOST ADAPTOR Now, locate the SCSI_ID for your CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, burners... ( 1,0,0 and 1,1,0 in my case) and after that try: readcd dev=SCSI_ID f='C:Documents\isos\test.ISO' If that gives you the same result like in The_GUI, then it's a matter of 'readcd' program (part of cdrtools from Joerg Schilling). You say that Make ISO did make a ISO for you in Win98, because that is almost imposible in Win98. This program makes CMD batch files, not BAT batch files. If I'm not wrong, CMD batch files are specific for WinNT line of OS-es. Please, can you confirm once more that ISO creating was successful. If 'CD to ISO' don't work in Win98, I'll include one more option in next beta for that (using ported dd command from linux). One more thing, if CD to ISO doesn't work, then I beleive that Burn CD also don't work. Try Burn CD with Simulate option checked ( you must have blank CD in your cd-recorder). |
Posted by: cdob Jun 25 2004, 12:42 PM |
@bobby100 First, best of luck to your exams. I used your gui with Alex's mingw32 version. I selected a batch directory "d:\temp" and got a error message, I had to add "\", that's "d:\temp\". Iso Image directory is the same. One feature request, please include used command to the output window. e.g. "mkisofs -iso-level 4 -duplicates-once -o d:/cd.iso d:/cd". If I get a mkisofs error message, I need to see used command. BTW: My CD-W54E writes still, too. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 25 2004, 04:37 PM |
@cdob Thanks, I'v passed my Technical English exam today. Guess what, my esay was about Bootable CDs . Still have two more exams, Technical Informatics tomorrow and Theoretical Informatics next Friday. About bugs you'v reported: seems that you use beta1, because it's a reported bug from beta1 (hopeful resolved in beta2). About feature request: on ToDo list (until then, you can see the command options in batch file generated by MakeISO, the name of the file is BUILD.CMD located in folder that you have specified in Batch Folder edit box) Question: do we need log files in The_GUI for mkisofs, cdrecord and readcd output? This could perhaps help in reporting bugs? |
Posted by: midas Jun 25 2004, 07:26 PM |
yes a log output would be helpful, perhaps add an option to create one (output log is created when wanted) |
Posted by: xzanman02 Jun 25 2004, 07:51 PM |
Bobby100 Best of luck on your exams. I didn't realize you were studying. This can wait till a later date. School comes first with me. Yes you are right, it did make a .cmd file. I forgot to mention that I renamed the file to .bat and double clicked. It created the iso. I did not burn the iso so I can't verify that it worked 100%. I can if you need me to, just let me know. cdrecord -scanbus worked. I got the same printout that you did with the exception of different hardware and one less host. scsibus0 only. No scsibus1. the readcd command line worked. It copied the disk and put the test.iso in the folder. Thank you for your help. If you need me to do anything else, just let me know. Good luck with the rest of your exams. |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 25 2004, 10:48 PM |
Beta3 here: http://members.chello.at/bobby100/beta/ - added loging for couple of operations that seems to have bugs - resolved a bug in Burning CDs if ISO's folder/file name contains spaces (I'm always forgeting to put those paths under quotas ) |
Posted by: xzanman02 Jun 26 2004, 12:06 AM |
Bobby100 I just downloaded beta3 and noticed that you want to collect log files. Are you looking for something in particular or just in a general way? Should I post them here or do something else with them? I will check back later. If you want me to do certain tasks with beta3, just let me know. I can send the log files or post them or whatever. Thank You |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 26 2004, 01:00 AM |
Enable loging and try again CD to ISO, then post the log here. I'm realy interested what goes wrong there. It works fine in all the tests I did. Please post whole log, I think that my function that takes the results from 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't works fine in your case. Try to use folder with and without spaces in its name, also try that for output file name. If something of that works for you, please let me know. thanks in advance Boban Spasic aka bobby100 |
Posted by: bobby100 Jun 30 2004, 10:29 AM |
Beta4 is uploaded. @xzanman02 use beta4 for debuging, it makes much smaller log files. If this version also don't works for you, please take a look at following: In CD operations module, are there the SCSI IDs ok in combo box where you select reading and recording device? Also, is SCSI ID ok on the label under that combo box after you select device? SCSI ID must have 3 numbers (e.g 1,1,0). If that isn't the case, let me know. In module Other you can find alternative way for making ISO images, this one must works, but I think it is slower method (at least for me). P.S. forgot to ask: do you have ASPI drivers installed? @all I'm going in vacation for two weeks, I'll check the forum periodicaly, but I can't make any modifications to my program until I come back. Regards Boban Spasic aka bobby100 |
Posted by: aec Jun 30 2004, 05:23 PM |
Hi Boban I am on vacation for two weeks. I didn't have the opportunity to test your new versions but I intend to do so as soon as I'm back. In the meanwhile, a propably cosmetic remark. I noticed that you do not leave any margins in your window, propably because you want to take advantage of the full window area. However, when I tried to run your program on a machine with windowblinds there were several marginal controls covered by the window frame that windowblinds added. I think that you should add a margin of at least 10 pixels. Everything would then look better. Regards |
Posted by: xzanman02 Jul 1 2004, 04:29 PM |
Bobby100 Hope that you are having a good time while on vaction. Creating an iso from cd works. Read speed: 9173 kB/s (CD 52x, DVD 6x). Write speed: 0 kB/s (CD 0x, DVD 0x). Capacity: 42736 Blocks = 85472 kBytes = 83 MBytes = 87 prMB Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes Copy from SCSI (0,0,0) disk to file 'C:\My Documents\isos\test.iso' Time total: 35.420sec Read 85472.00 kB at 2413.1 kB/sec. I skipped the individual sector reads to keep it shorter. It worked fine. Thank you. With win98 bbie does not allow you to extract a boot image from the cd, you first must make an iso of the cd to the hard drive. This is not your fault. Bbie needs nt4 or greater to do this. No big deal since I can create an iso of the cd. I can create an iso file with no problems. But if I try to create a bootable iso file, I get this this file is generated by The_GUI C:\Temp>"C:\TEMP2\THEGUI\mkisofs.exe" -J -l -r -iso-level 1 -o "C:/Temp/test.iso" -b "C:/Temp/Bootimg.img" -no-emul-boot "C:/xblst/" C:\TEMP2\THEGUI\MKISOFS.EXE: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'C:/Temp/Bootimg.img' ! Press any key to continue . . . Ok got that one solved. I was going to delete this before I sent it but it may help someone else. The problem was Bootimg.img. As you notice the B is capitalized. Win98 has troubles with what letters are capitalized and what letters are lower case. I renamed Bootimg.img to bootimg.img. It only looks like one letter change but I did them all in lower case and it worked. It looks like everything works with win98. I have not found any part of you program that had troubles. Thank You very much. It is a very nice program that works well. Have a good vacation, you deserve it. If you want the full logs, I can post them for any parts that you want. I can do that once you get back. Now is the time to relax. Have fun |
Posted by: Rickj Jul 4 2004, 12:44 AM |
@xzanman02 The upper/lower case problem you are noting isn't a Win98 problem. It's a *nix problem. mkisofs/cdrecord was originally written for Unix/Linux which is VERY case sensitive. This is why Bart has to include cygwin1.dll with PEBuilder. Cygwin1.dll is incorporated in the mingw32 version of mkisofs. Everybody should keep this in mind when building sort lists as well. The sort list is case sensitive and needs forward slashes "/", not backslashes "\", just like Unix/Linux. Hope this helps. |